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In 2008, I had just become a venture capitalist. What will a venture capital turnaround feel like? Will it be gradual or sudden? What will change the sentiment in the market? Three months later, Lehman fell & the Global Financial Crisis started.
The most recent event to use as an analogy is the 2008 financial crisis. In 2008, I had just joined the venture industry, and then Lehman fell. That grew to about $5B per quarter in 2007 and early 2008. Seed investments suffered a 50% fall in Q3 2008, but the market came right back in Q4 and continued to increase in volume.
We reviewed the data in May and compared it to the effects of the financial crisis in 2008 on startup fundraising. As a reminder, 2008 saw a 40% reduction in venture dollars invested in startups. These corrections match 2008. It took about six to eight quarters to return to normalcy. But the patterns this time are different.
In 2008, tightfistedness dominated the market. Today, a story is sufficient to raise a 2008-sized Series B. Given how much investors prefer faster growth rates and the massive surge in venture fund size, I don’t expect the ramen and ping-pong days of 2008 to return anytime soon. In my notebook, I sketched this 2x2.
In 2008, after the iPhone app store launched, we asked each other, is there an app for that? Millions of people want to try new products, all at once, to answer the question : how could AI help me with my email, my homework, my music creation, my graphic design, my data analysis, my plumbing business? Platform shifts arouse curiosity.
He’s a hedge fund manager who had foreseen the shocking 2007-2008 housing collapse. Have you heard of Michael Burry? Having betted against subprime-mortgage bonds ahead of the meltdown, he made about $750 million in profits for his investors and $100 million personally. But how was he able to predict something like that?
I wrote an early SaaStr post way back in 2013 on my “Year of Hell” as a SaaS CEO in 2008. My personal Year of Hell was 2008. In 2013, we were just 2 years removed from the real recovery from ’08-’09. So if you’re in your Year of Hell, you’ll get through it. We’ve all been there. It was a tough year.
I like it because it models out two scenarios — one if the current downturn is like 2008, another if it’s like 2000. Redpoint looks at What If this downturn is like 2008, or even 2000. The bounceback was quicker and less severe in 2008, but both took … a long time. Yes, interest rates, inflation etc.
Also, 2014 to 2016 saw a 57% reduction in multiples and of course after 2008. Since 2016, public software has witnessed four corrections. Today, we’re in the midst of the fifth. But let’s look at the most recent five years.
My hunch originates from this analysis of the 2008 crisis. I expect the venture market to slow round counts for a quarter, but then resume. As growth rates fall, valuations should move similarly. But it’s too early to say for sure. Here’s a basic model you can download and play with the inputs.
Change at a pace we haven’t seen since 2008, when the world of SaaS was just so, so much smaller. But they do bounce back fast. — Jason Be Kind Lemkin (@jasonlk) December 30, 2022. So this last year was one of so much change. Just 12 months ago, Bitcoin was at near-highs, as were many SaaS stocks, and multiples. And then … crash.
In particular, narratives stoked three depressions and recessions in the US in 1920, 1929, and 2008. Robert Shiller wrote Narrative Economics , in which he explores how stories impact the economy. Shiller, a respected and lauded professor at Yale, models the spread of narratives in these periods using epidemiology.
Then came the 2008 financial crisis. Over its first decade, Procore grew and expanded from serving the construction project manager to serving multiple stakeholders, multiple products and multiple geos. Almost overnight, residential construction came to a stop, forcing Procore to pivot toward commercial projects.
During the dotcom crash in 2001, the Global Financial Crisis of 2008, and the SaaS corrections in 2014, 2016, and 2018, Lee was either COO/CFO or CFO at Twilio, SAY Media, and Ofoto. Lee Kirkpatrick is no stranger to downturns.
Ten years ago, Nvidia’s market cap hovered around $4b, down from its previous high of $13b in 2008. Today, Nvidia is the fifth most valuable technology company in the US, worth nearly $1t - just 20% less valuable than Amazon. In a decade, the business increased in value about 250x, compounding at about 74%.
In March, I published analysis of the fundraising market in 2008. It showed that the later rounds, the series B and series C were the most impacted. The early data from March 2020 shows a different pattern. Seed and Series A rounds are first to bear the compression in the market. Later rounds are unblemished.
Adapt, Plan Deliver: Founder/CEO Lessons from 2000 & 2008 Applied to 2020 With Twilio CEO Jeff Lawson and Bessemer Venture Partner’s Byron Deeter. This should be an incredible deep-dive on the opportunities and challenges to selling into the enterprise right now.
Even the 2008-2009 downturn, while truly brutal, didn’t hit SaaS as hard as the rest of the economy. Not easy, but easier and easier: There was a bump in 2016, a Flash Crash in SaaS, when budgets were slashed, but it didn’t last long enough to really impact renewal cycles. SaaS markets had fully recovered later that year.
I sold a sales tool in 2008-2009 when the global economy was in total meltdown, and I’ll tell you, we sure didn’t stop selling. We had a great conversation on how much harder it is now with Gong’s incredible CRO here: But is that an excuse to sort of quiet quit? To give up a bit? I say No. In fact, I always say No.
9: Founder/CEO Lessons from 2000 & 2008 Applied to 2020 with Jeff Lawson, Twilio and Byron Deeter, Bessemer Venture Partners. #10: . #7: Twilio: The Inside Story With Jeff Lawson (A SaaStr Classic). #8: 8: 12 Key Levers of SaaS Success with David Skok of Matrix Partners (another SaaStr Classic). #9:
Public multiples often were around 4x-5x in 2008, and then the global meltdown came, and public multiples fell to as less than 2x revenue for a while. Then, well, right after we sold EchoSign to Adobe way back in 2011, things picked up, with a slow with material and steady increase in public multiples from 2012 to 2015.
Since 2008, the US experienced an unabated 12 year bull market fueled by four waves of money printing which increased US money supply by 30%+. The slides are embedded above & linked here. My brief narrative of the slides follows. The current state of affairs arose as a result of the Global Financial Crisis.
The previously fixed financial products that existed in 2008 of a $4-6M Series A and a $10-12M Series B are gone. And this means that the financial product that we call the Series Seed or Series A is meaningless; it’s just the header on the fundraising documents.
The era after 2006 and through the 2008 financial crisis was a different time to raise capital. If we look at the ROIC across IPOs across the last 12 years or so, we see that same initial dynamic of incredibly efficient companies in the 2010 and 2014 IPO cohorts. But the efficiency is declining, markedly. There are a few reasons for this.
Billion way back in 2008. So Domo is an interesting case study on SaaS entrepreneurship. Founder Josh James had one of the earliest $1B+ exits in SaaS when Adobe bought his first start-up, Omniture, for $1.8 Omniture is still big and it dominated web analytics especially for bigger companies in the earlier days of the internet.
Just as the economic downturn of 2008 led to the cloud-based SaaS boom that became the new norm for digitally modern businesses, remote work will become ingrained in the core of the new “business as usual” following this pandemic. Let me reassure you: Remote selling is not a temporary trend.
Started Twilio in January 2008, just as the last downturn happened. He joined StubHub as CTO, but didn’t get nearly as much equity as the other CTO — because he “wasn’t committed enough.” ” A good reminder to us all. For months, they couldn’t raise any money at all.
I started both my companies in downturns, post-2000 and post-2008. What’s your pulse check on the venture markets right now, today? This is an incredible time to build companies. The innovations and technological breakthroughs we’re seeing are amazing, and I am confident we will see some important companies come out during this time period.
It was founded in 2008 but took a while to get going, hitting $1m in revenue in 2011 selling to Utah schools — and then scaled from there. Instructure is one of the leading learning management systems for education with its Canvas product. Your kids may well use it. You may have in college, too.
In February 2008, the ARS market seized. In the mid-2000s, many startups invested their excess cash reserves in instruments called Auction Rate Securities. ARS produced a steady stream of interest payments, like savings accounts, with a higher return. Startups seeking to sell their ARSs to fund burn were out of luck : no one would buy them.
Creandum led the first institutional round in 2008 and it became Europe’s largest tech company to go public ten years later. No big egos but really act with high trust, integrity and long term thinking. #6. What’s an “exit” you’re particularly proud of? Peter is a General Partner and runs Creandum’s London office.
Founder/CEO Lessons From 2000, 2008 and 2020 with Jeff Lawson and Byron Deeter , CEO of Twilio and GP at Bessemer Venture Partners. Funding in the Time of Coronavirus, Mark Suster , Upfront Ventures. Marking Trade-Offs in Marketing: What to Do, What to Pause with CMO of Tripactions , Meagan Eisenberg.
In 2008, there was a $5M series A product and a $10M series B product. Startups are able to raise larger early rounds because of the financial environment. One way of thinking about the early-stage fundraising market is as a collection of financial products. Those were the most popular.
In particular, narratives stoked three depressions and recessions in the US in 1920, 1929, and 2008. Robert Shiller wrote Narrative Economics , in which he explores how stories impact the economy. Shiller, a respected and lauded professor at Yale, models the spread of narratives in these periods using epidemiology.
14 years ago, in 2008, at the onset of the last global recession, Google pulled their full-time offers for all their summer interns, which included my co-founder at Cloudflare, Michelle Zatlyn. Recessions have always been hard, but they’re also formative moments to focus and ultimately improve.
Each Basel Accord was authored in response to a crisis Basel I - the crash of 1989; Basel II - the dotcom crash, and Basel III - the GFC of 2008. The first three Basel Accords set the minimum amount of capital a bank must hold.
I remember joining in 2008, a green product manager out of Google who had just landed his dream job. Many of the greatest companies have been founded during difficult market conditions. This era will be no exception. I’m deeply grateful to the Redpoint team.
It was founded way back in 2008, and had a slowish start and a smallish IPO (as did most of us, back in the day). But founder-CEO Chad Richison has kept at it for 14 years, building it into an incredible engine, growing 31% at $1.2 40% EBDITA. They've got the combo of pretty high growth AND profits pic.twitter.com/OaOEEwN2Yn.
The iTunes store launch in 2008 enabled Uber. Mastering social distribution ( sheep-throwing in the early days) on MySpace & Facebook’s propelled YouTube & Zynga, not to mention the social networks themselves. What is the distribution advantage AI confers to startups?
Stress Test: Tim Geithner : play-by-play of the 2008 crisis from the vantage point of the US Secretary of the Treasury. Technological Revolutions & Financial Capital: The Dynamics of Bubbles and Golden Ages : a fantastically clear and cogent theory on how technology changes markets and how to make money during these cycles.
In 2008, he founded Yammer, an enterprise software company that David grew to 500 employees and $60 million in sales. David Sacks: SaaS Background and Investments. David’s first foray into SaaS was in 1999 when he joined a startup that would become PayPal, starting as the product leader and later as the COO. Microsoft acquired Yammer for $1.2
Windows Server 2008 has reached end of life, which typically means upgrading to a newer version. If you still have workloads running on Windows Server 2008, you’re not alone. But CIOs have options beyond updating to a more recent iteration of Windows server, including staying put or migrating to the cloud.
In March, I published analysis of the fundraising market in 2008. It showed that the later rounds, the series B and series C were the most impacted. The early data from March 2020 shows a different pattern. Seed and Series A rounds are first to bear the compression in the market. Later rounds are unblemished.
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