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But is Duolingo SaaS? Well, it’s SaaS-ish. The core product is very B2C, but the upgrade to paid has very SMB B2B metrics, and 80% of the revenue is subscription based. While common in B2C, it’s interesting how big a deal this is for Duolingo. So it’s doing what Wall Street wants today.
Q: Where do you draw the line when companies ask for customization for a SaaS product? Especially from VCs, B2C folks, and folks that have never sold bigger deals and into the enterprise. This is SaaS, not a services business. Apologies for the caps, but be careful taking advice from B2C and SMB folks.
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Because SaaS and Cloud are. A bit of a B2C metric I guess (members), but still a visceral example of making more money from your base. SaaS and B2B wasn’t as hot, and 2016 in particular had a “SaaS Crash” when multiple fell into free fall. B2B market is on fire. Now, 2016 was a different type.
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A few B2B/SaaS specific thoughts. Don’t join a B2B/SaaS start-up that won’t share its revenue and current growth rate with you — and its Zero Cash Date. But SaaS and B2B is about scaling revenue. Don’t join a B2B/SaaS start-up where you don’t believe in the CEO. That’s OK in SaaS.
And it’s more than 90% of sales reps in SaaS do well. B2C companies at $150 price point: “We answer every call and chat in 60 seconds or less”: — Jason BeKind Lemkin #???????????? I am just shocked on how many reps wait a day to respond to a lead, and then set up a meeting the following week in one of just a few time slots.
Open Source products, the millions of customers, and the communities around them make the industry almost feel B2C. Open Source is here to stay—and Open Source + SaaS is the future. Databricks started out in the Cloud; we never provided an on-prem offering, only a SaaS Cloud offering. It was difficult, but it was worth it.
In B2C, there are. There are lots of high-volume programs in B2C. In SaaS and B2B … less so. E.g., SEM doesn’t scale in SaaS. It’s often hard for these to scale too big in SaaS, but whatever you get, is still pretty cheap. There are no B2B marketing programs that predictably cost you $.43923492
If a SaaS business hopes to win over the SMB market successfully, it will need a precise GTM approach. As Zocchetto said, “It’s very important –– sales hiring planning –– because in a self-driven SaaS business model, it’s what drives growth.”. Secret 5: Build a B2C Rather Than a B2B Marketing Engine.
So times aren’t tougher for everyone in B2B and SaaS, but they’re tougher for many. Marketing is a variable cost with generally medium-term benefits in SaaS and B2B. Because the reality in SaaS, most things won’t “perform” at all. But in 110% NRR, 80% gross margin SaaS? That works at all.
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